Charlie Kirk’s salvation – reasons to doubt it – Mt 6:33-34; Jn 14:15,21,23:
Immediately following & in the several days after Charlie Kirk’s death there was a seldom seen, nation wide flood of adulation, praise & relentless proclamation of his “Christian faith” & his “love for Jesus” that bordered on an almost irrational idolatrous deifying of Charlie Kirk that was similar to that manifested by Romanisms idolatrous worship & deifying of Pope Francis & his predecessors.
As best as I can determine no one in the Christian community has even suggested, let alone actually evaluated Charlie Kirk’s proclaimed “Christian faith” in the light of God’s authoritative Holy Word – Acts 17:11; Jn 3:1-8; 14:6(Acts 4:12); Mk 1:15; Jn 6: 44,65; Ephs 1:3-6; 2:8-10; Jn 14:15,21, 23; I Jn 2:4(1-6); II Cor 6:14-17;
II Tim 4:3-5.
Acts 2:37-47 gives 7 evidences of true salvation:
1) v37 – CONVICTION OF PERSONAL SIN
(Jn 3:1-6,16-19; I Thess 1:9-10)
2) v38 – REPENTANCE (Mk 1:14-15)
3) v42 – A LOVE OF & HUNGER FOR
GOD’S WORD (II Tim 2:15;
Ps 119:97-105; II Tim 3:16-
17; Pro 30:5-6
4) v42 – A DESIRE TO COMMUNE
W/GOD (Prayer – active,
ongoing; I Thess 5:16-18)
5) v44-45 – A GENUINE, EVIDENT
LOVE FOR FELLOW
BELIEVERS (I Jn 4:7-13)
6) v46 – A DESIRE FOR & JOY IN
FELLOWSHIPPING
W/OTHER BELIEVERS (Phil
2:3+; I Jn 4:7-13)
7) v46-47 – AN UNDENIABLE,
EVIDENT, OBVIOUSLY
CHANGED MIND/HEART
PERTAINING TO DAILY
LIVING (Mt 6:33-4; Ps
118:24; 119:9, 97-105; II Cor
10:3-5; II Tim 2:15; II Cor
4:7-11; Phil 4:4-13)
In the light of Paul’s command to the believers in Corinth, it behooves us today to do the same concerning ourselves & Charlie Kirk –
II Cor 13:5: 5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
The following facts about Charlie Kirk’s “Christian faith” give ample testimony to the fact that Charlie Kirk’s “Christian faith” was justifiably questionable & that those who embrace his system are being led astray from the truth of God’s word. The following facts reveal that Charlie Kirk’s “Christian faith” does not pass the test of II Cor 13:5 or II Tim 2:15.
II Tim 2:15: Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.
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Facts:
> not a single proclamation, that I have heard or read, of Charlie Kirk’s “faith in Jesus” is couched in New Testament, Biblical truth – II Cor 2:14-17; 3:17-18; 5: 14-15,17; all are couched in Charlie’s decision @ 11 years of age to make Jesus “the chairman of the board” of his life……..
”At the age of 11: “I remember very vividly just raising my hand to be like, I want to sign up for that. I’m ready to make Jesus Christ the Chairman of the Board of my life.” (This is not the testimony of New Testament salvation – Ephs 1:3-6; 2:8-10; Jn 3:1-8; 6:44,65; 14:6,15,21,23; Mk 1:15; Acts 2:37-47; I Ptr 1:3,4-5,6a; II Cor 5:17) & then he proceeded to go about pragmatically establishing & applying that decision to facilitate his Turning Point USA political, save America, Christian Nationalist, personal agenda.
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This is an excerpt from a FoxNews article (11/13 or 14/25) related to Beloit College refusing to approve a new TPUSA chapter on their campus. I include it for one reason, to show the basis of & purpose for the existence of TPUSA, as determined by Charlie Kirk, the single individual who developed & actively promoted this agenda which clearly has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, R-Wis., sought to collect the facts regarding allegations from a Beloit College student that her college was preventing her from establishing a new Turning Point USA (TPUSA) chapter on campus. TPUSA was the conservative campus activism nonprofit founded by assassinated activist Charlie Kirk.
This italicized statement clearly states the purpose (activism) & agenda (conservative politics) of TPUSA. No where does Scripture ever characterize a child of God, a true believer, as an “activist”. To the contrary Christian’s are commanded to show themselves Christian by being the very opposite – Roms 13:1- 10; I Tim 2:1-6; I Ptr 2:9-10,11-17; 3:13-17.
(I Ptr 2:11-17; 3:13-17: 2:11-17: 11 Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul. 12 Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation. 13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. 15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men. 16 Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God. 17 Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.
3:13-17: 13 Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good?14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled, 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the ahope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.)
I find it interesting that the words “activist” & “activism” are not even in Noah Webster’s 1828 Dictionary. However, as defined in Webster’s 2022 Collegiate Dictionary, both words describe thinking & action that willfully & openly disobeys the commands of the verses sighted above. Webster’s 2022 definition of an “activist” is “one who advocates or practices activism: a person who uses or supports strong actions (such as public protests) in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue”. “Activism” is defined as “a doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue”. Obviously both words describe one who cultivates & practices behavior in direct conflict with & disobedient of God’s Holy Word which, in his eclectic, ungodly Christian Nationalism philosophy, is Charlie Kirk.
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> Turning Point USA’s Christian Nationalist philosophy via Charlie Kirk, is a totally unbiblical concept.
> Charlie Kirk’s “Christ” was a christ of his own making as evidenced by the following: 1) believed in & embraced Christian Nationalism, 2) praise of Mormonism, 3) embracing of homosexuals for pragmatic purposes (in mid 2024, Kirk stated that “strong borders” & “a strong country” were more important for inclusion in conservatism” than any of the homosexual/ gender related issues – Is 5:20-21), 4) embracing of Jewish Old Covenant sabbath laws (see YouTube video in ph “Messages, Bold Ministries”), 5) the belief that America was once a Christian nation & finally & most revealing, 6) embraced the apostate satanic system of Roman Catholicism.
> On a recent episode of his podcast, Kirk, an evangelical Christian who recently spoke about the Blessed Mother, mentioned how he was close to Father Don Kline, pastor of St. Bernadette Catholic Church in Scottsdale, Arizona, and how his wife was baptized Catholic.
Erika attended Notre Dame Preparatory High School in Scottsdale. Erika’s entire Catholic community came together last night in Scottsdale to pray for the Kirk family.
> Rachel Campos-Duffy @RCamposDuffy
Erika Kirk holding Charlie’s cross necklace out the window for throngs of supporters lining the streets of Phoenix as she brings her beloved husband’s body home.
“In the days, months & years to come, she’ll be leaning on our Lady of Sorrows, her heavenly Mother, who experienced the grief & suffering of Calvary.”
> Here’s the full text of Charlie Kirk’s video:
“But let me first say, I think we as Protestants and Evangelicals under-venerate Mary. She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior.
“I think that we, as Evangelicals and Protestants, we’ve overcorrected. We don’t talk about Mary enough. We don’t venerate her enough. Mary was clearly important to early Christians. There’s something there. In fact, I believe one of the ways that we fix toxic feminism in America is that Mary is the solution.
Have more young ladies be pious, be reverent, be full of faith, slow to anger, slow to words at times. Mary is a phenomenal example, and I think a counter to so much of the toxicity of feminism in the modern era.” (Notice first of all, Kirk never uses the word Christian in conjunction with himself or the church today, only Protestant & evangelical. Secondly, every single point of Romanism that he applauds & promotes is incessantly heretical. It is pure heresy – 100% unbiblical – Is 5:20-21.)
> After this video surfaced, Catholic conservative commentator Isabel Brown also republished Kirk’s words on social media.
Brown wrote in her caption:
“I have no doubt that the sheer attack on and hatred of Mary I’ve seen escalate the past few years even from people of faith (what faith; whose faith; faith in what or whom?) has DIRECTLY contributed to the crisis of femininity young women are experiencing today.
“There is NO better example on Earth of a Godly woman embracing her vocation, humbly serving others, exhibiting extraordinary strength in crisis, and loving others with integrity than Mary, the Mother of God.”(this is heresy)
Crisis Magazine interview (Catholic publication) –
>beneath the sharp-edged persona, there was another side to Kirk that deserves careful reflection: his surprising sympathy for the Catholic Church and his willingness-uncommon among evangelicals-to speak with respect about its ancient treasures of faith (Is 5:20-21; Deut 13:1-5; Jer 10:8-9).
> Pictures are circulating online, showing the family visiting the National Basilica in Washington, D.C., along with photos of Charlie at Mass.
> Crisis Magazine interview(Catholic publication) –
Every reference to the church that is capitalized is referring to the Church of Rome:
-There is a lot of evidence that Charlie Kirk was leading his family towards the Catholic Church; not least of all, his public call to venerate the Mother of God (this is blasphemous; Romanisms evil elevation Mary above Christ)
-held up the Virgin as a model of strength in gentleness, dignity in humility, and beauty in obedience to God.
-For many young men, the Church has become the one stable refuge, a place where eternal truths anchor (II Cor 4:3-4)
-Kirk understood that permanence and beauty are what truly draw souls (Kirk along with this Catholic interviewer & all of Rome reveal their total spiritual blindness in this heretical statement – Lu 6:39-40; Mt 15:14. The truth is Jn 1:1-14; 3:1-8; 6:44,65; 14:6; Mk 1:15)
-Kirk expressed his admiration for the Traditional Latin Mass (So, a true believer, an elect child, chosen by God, is going to express admiration for one of the most satanic beliefs & practices of apostate Rome – the evil Mass that rejects the “once for all” satisfying (Hebs 7:25-27; 8:1-2; 12:1-2, 28-29), atoning death & glorious resurrection of our Lord by propagating the Eucharistic belief & teaching of the heresy of transubstantiation – Is 5:20-21; Mt 7:15- 20). He noted: “I think what would be really helpful to the church in the next pope is to have a pope who is not hostile to tradition, to the traditional liturgy.……There is so much beauty in this Mass that endured substantially unchanged” (Is 5: 20-21; II Cor 11:13-15; Mt 7:15-20).
-these reflections reveal a man who, though firmly rooted in evangelical Protestantism (be not deceived – evangelical Protestantism never has been, is not now, & never will be synonymous with Biblical, New Testament Christianity – Jn 3:1-8; 6:44,65; 14:6; Mk 1:15), had begun to glimpse the treasures of the Catholic Faith (Is 5:20-21; Ezkl 22: 23-28; II Tim 4:3-5; Deut 13:1-5; II Jn 7- 11). He saw in Mary a remedy for modern confusion (satanic Romanism – Deut 13:1- 5; Is 5:20-21; Lu 6:39-40; Mt 15:14). He recognized in the Church (satanic Romanism – Deut 13:1-5; Is 5:20-21) a haven for restless youth (II Cor 4:3-4; Jn 8:43-45). And he acknowledged the need for a beauty and stability (neither one of which have any capacity to cause one to be “born again” – I Ptr 3-6a; II Cor 5:17,21. This satanic Romanism – Jer 10:8-9; Deut 13:1-5; Is 5: 20-21; II Cor 11:13- 15) that only an ancient tradition (Is 29: 13-14(13-16) can offer.
-“Some of my greatest friends in the world are Catholic…I go to Catholic Mass every once in a while. I don’t take the
Eucharist… but I’m open-minded (this is the proclamation of a Biblical fool (Pro 16: 22; 17:12; 18:7), not a follower of Jesus Christ (Acts 17:11; II Cor 10:3-5; II Tim 3: 16-17; 2:15). God is not open-minded – Is 44:6; 42:8-9; 55:8; 66:1-2; Jn 14:6; Acts 4:12), but I’m not there yet.”
He added that he holds “so much respect for the Catholic Tradition and Church.” (II Cor 4:4; 6:14-17).
-what is clear was his openness to Catholic truth (this is a total, complete Biblical oxymoron – Deut 13:1-5; II Jn 7- 11; Jude 4. There is no truth in Roman Catholicism! Romanism is, in its entirety, a satanic lie that Satan, under Gods superintending Sovereign providential plan, is using to accomplish that which the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to reveal in II Cor 4:3-4: 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing (Job 21:30; Ps 92:7; 94:23; Roms 9:22-24; Rev 20:15), 4 in whose case the god of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.), his courage to speak of the Church with reverence (I find it interesting that a spiritually dead Catholic, quasi journalist, perceives Charlie Kirk’s being satanically deceived as “courage”. It literally is oxymoronic. This is irrational when viewed thru the lens of Holy Scripture.), and his ability to point his audience toward something older and deeper than political slogans – II Cor 11:13-15; Mt 7:15-20.
(Charlie Kirk, it appears, was a “closet Catholic” on the verge of “coming out”; his love for & participation in the evil, satanic Mass of Rome decries & denegrates love for Christ & God’s word)
> the conservative influencer had glowingly praised the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; (Charlie Kirk clearly had no regard for the authority & veracity of God’s word – Deut 4:2; 7:5; 12: 3; Mt 7:15-20; Roms 16:17-18; II Cor 6:14- 17; II Jn 7-11)
> became a Christian nationalist. (This & TPUSA are totally unbiblical concepts & belief systems – Jn 18:36; I Cor 15:50-58; I Thess 4:13-18; Rev 21-22)
> Kirk partnered with California pastor Rob McCoy (Charismatic) to launch TPUSA Faith to mobilize conservative Christians to vote Republican. (This is not the purpose nor work of the the New Testament church – Acts 16:5; I Thess 2:8; Col 1:9-12,28)
> a powerful influencer urging students and young people to embrace conservative Christianity. (“conservative Christianity”, (Kirk’s version) is politically based, not Biblically based. It also, erroniously, implies that there is a “liberal Christianity” in conflict with Charlie’s “conservative” version all of which is a deceptive lie; “conservative Christianity, (Kirk’s version) is unbiblical, which the majority, if not all, of those who enthusiastically embrace it, have virtually no understanding or even realization of. These two,“Conservative” & “Christian”, are not synonymous. One is about secular, worldly politics, the other is about the redemptive love & grace of God & “never shall the twain meet”. They are oxymoronic. The term is the creation of men who want their preconceived agenda to appear to be of God – Col 2:8; II Cor 6: 14-17; Ezkl 22:23-24; II Tim 4:3-5)
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It is not unlikely that Charlie Kirk & TPUSA, in light of his unbiblical eclecticism & the completely unbiblical nature of the intent, purpose, & objectives of TPUSA, have been & are, in God’s Holy economy, instruments of Satan (II Cor 11:13-15: 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.)
that testify to the truth of II Cor 4:3-4 –
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”
The thousands of “followers” of Charlie Kirk & TPUSA are blindly, in their ignorance of & inability to understand God’s word, embracing all things TPUSA mistakenly believing it to be Christian. And, they most assuredly are not being accurately called to the necessity of Biblical repentance & the pursuit of personal holiness according to Scripture – Ps 19: 7-11; 119(all); Is 44:6; 40:5-8; 55:8,9-11; 66:1-2; II Tim 3:14-15, 16-17; II Ptr 1:19-21.
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Additional evidence of reasons to doubt Charlie Kirk’s salvation:
- Based on this post, Charlie Kirk’s Christianity is inspiring a “new generation of Christian’s” who are not a new generation of true Biblical Christian’s but, a deceived “new generation” of those embracing Roman Catholicism – II Cor 4:4; Is 5: 20-21.
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Two examples of satanic Roman heresy related to prayer, salvation, God’s redemptive plan, & the spiritual finality of death – Ecc 5:1-7; Jn 14; I Cor 15:50-58; I Thess 4;13-18:
- Pagan Romanism praying for the dead in purgatory, hoping God will have mercy based on the volume of prayers & lighted candles of the living.
- Heretical satanic Roman teaching related to God “embracing” all men (whatever that actually means, it doesn’t mean Biblical salvation) in some unexplained way.
- Now, being totally deceived (Jn 8:43- 45), the millions who embrace this satanic apostate system foolishly believe the dead person can receive God’s forgiveness after dying, no matter how they lived their earthly days.
- This is a satanic, perverted, belief system that is literally, in the light of God’s truth, irrational – the idea that salvation can be realized after dying.
Anyone who believes this deceptive, satanic fantasizing is of those identified in II Cor 4:4.
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- This is sheer Biblical lunacy – praying for a dead persons “eternal rest”, regardless of their spiritual condition prior to dying truly is lunacy. This is the outgrowth of the non-existent, satanic concept of & belief in purgatory. God’s word declares that there is a time to die (Ecc 3:1-2) & then comes the judgement – not one deceived, last hope that God will be merciful. I Ptr 4:17; Rev 20:15.